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[...and by "flist" here I am, sadly and deplorably, referring to my LJ homies, on account of how even though I admire and esteem DW and acknowledge its many superiorities, I also realize I have barely enough brain to cope with just LJ and have temporarily given up on trying to figure out how crossposting, etc., works.]

I feel like I should be thumping my head on the desk and mumbling mea culpas for all the e-mails and comments that have gone un-replied-to. Rather than blather boringly on about my apparent flare-up of neurosis about even the minimal social engagement involved in e-mail/LJ comment exchanges, I will instead just say -- well, mea culpa. And you are wonderful people. And! (*sudden topic swerve*) I am more or less healthy again! After about 498684913879878 years of coughing! I even went to the gym today, for the first time in two and a half months, and lasted, oh, I'd say maybe 15 minutes! Upward and onward, mes amies!

I was just now folding laundry, and, although there are a million things of social, political or cultural relevance that a brighter person than I might post, found myself suddenly moved to instead do -- a poll!



OK, so what brought this to mind was time spent laundering and then folding my one and only set of cloth napkins. They are very nice napkins--heavy soft damask-weight cotton, in a deep woodsy green. And I found myself trying to recall just when was the last time I used them. All I could really come up with was "Probably somewhere between five and ten years ago." The role of these napkins in my life, apparently, is to sit nicely folded in a drawer, and then, when I'm moving, to be used for wrapping and cushioning the wineglasses.

I would sort of LIKE to be the person who uses cloth napkins on a regular basis, thus in a small way contributing to this civilization we are attempting to have here. And yet? Though it makes Miss Manners purse her lips and Al Gore sob aloud, when it comes down to it, I am ALL about the paper towels. (Neatly folded, to be sure, and set alongside the plate, with a fork centered atop.)

And, as usual, I find myself wondering how many standard deviations from the norm I am in this (assuming you lovely folk can straightfacedly be referred to as a "norm") -- which leads me to ask:

[Poll #1482671]

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacksquirrel.livejournal.com
And now you've made me desperately want a set of cloth napkins. Probably bamboo ones - might as well go all out on the environmental front.

Glad you're feeling better.

Date: 2009-11-09 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com
We do use cloth napkins daily, but it's not because I've suddenly gone all Martha Stewart on your ass. It's for environmental reasons: no dead trees, no waste.

I've gotten out of the habit of having paper or really any sort of disposable stuff in the house except for toilet paper. I even carry handkerchiefs now.

Not, BTW, saying that you should do this if it's not your thing! I am not here to evangelize or (god forbid) make you feel guilty for your tableware choices. To each her own, say I!

I also say: P. and I are coming to the Seattle area for a few days in April, culminating in Bitchin' Party. There better be Kat time.

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kassrachel.livejournal.com
fwiw, my way of handling x-posting is, I post directly to dreamwidth; my default setting is that the "crosspost" tickybox is ticked, which means my posts automatically also appear on lj, and if a post is flocked or filtered on dw, the same holds true over here. :-)

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Date: 2009-11-09 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kassrachel.livejournal.com
Oh, and: we use cloth napkins daily, but typically we use them for multiple days in a row -- until it becomes clear that they need laundering, at which point they go in the laundry and we fetch new ones from the cupboard. *g*

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nestra.livejournal.com
I did not answer the last question, because I think you should do whatever you want.

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:31 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shayheyred.livejournal.com
I have about 2.5 sets of napkins, but I gotta tell you, there'd better be a damn good reason for me to trot them out. Like the Obamas coming to visit.

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heresluck
I have two sets of cloth napkins. The first set is fairly old and used to be for dinner parties, but then they ended up getting quite stained (not surprising, given the kinds of things I am apt to cook) and became my everyday napkins, and I got a new set of cloth napkins for special occasions. Hilariously, I am more apt to break out the paper napkins when people are visiting me, because cloth napkins seem to make my friends nervous.

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:53 am (UTC)
twistedchick: General Leia in The Force Awakens (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
I have my mother's tablecloths, none of which fit my table, and most of the time we use placemats. And then there's the tablecloth and napkins with ink on them that won't come out, and the other ones with other problems that can't be fixed.

(Hmm. Bare wood tables, scrubbed off, polished, decorated. A fashion statement?)

(I hit the frelling by accident, sorry)

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:54 am (UTC)
china_shop: Fraser's not so sure about that (Fraser Oh-I'm-not-so-sure-about-that)
From: [personal profile] china_shop
I actually don't use any napkins at all, except for particularly messy meals. Mostly I lick my fingers and/or wash my hands after eating. *is classy*

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Date: 2009-11-09 11:50 am (UTC)
calime: Profile of Methos grinning (Methos grin)
From: [personal profile] calime
Hee. Um, it makes me feel glad I'm not the only one!
We're totally the most environment-friendly here, aren't we *grins*?

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Date: 2009-11-09 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexfandra.livejournal.com
Ditto. When I saw the poll, I thought, "Napkins? We don't need no stinkin' napkins! That's what the back of one's hand is for!" And for messy meals, the occasional paper towel.

I do buy paper napkins twice a year which is approximately how often I host a party. I go all out for my guests.

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Date: 2009-11-09 02:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pocketmouse
My family has a good number of sets of cloth napkins. They only get pulled out for holidays. They live in the dining room with the good china, which gets pulled out for same.

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Date: 2009-11-09 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rustler.livejournal.com
When it's just my family at home, I actually use cheap washcloths instead of nice cloth napkins, but then I've got kids. :g: I just get those multi-packs from Target or whatever, they wash well and are cheap/easy to replace.

I mean, I do have a nice set somewhere, but rarely use them. Haha, as someone else said, I'm more likely to use paper napkins when I have company. Dunno what someone would think if I handed them a washcloth with their meal.

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Date: 2009-11-09 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
I used to be all about the paper napkins, but the thing is, you have to BUY those, and cloth napkins are forever. It's so much easier to wash them and reuse them (this would not be true if you had to tote your laundry somewhere to do, of course), and also they are much much better at cleaning up the kind of disasters the earthling tends to leave after his meals. So it's not so much civilization, as they actually work better. (I mean, I totally don't put them out, with a fork all nicely centered on them, or whatever - I kind of hurl them at people. I'm busy, here! TAKE A GODDAMN NAPKIN!)

But I will say that I only became converted because of Best Beloved's unholy love of cloth napkins. She kept buying them, and so I kind of felt we had to use them, and also they were always there when we ran out of paper, and - eventually I just stopped buying paper. From that experience, I would say the tricks to converting to using cloth napkins are:

1. Have several sets, of various textures and types. You will find you like some better than others. I got these reusable "paper" towels from etsy that proved to be AWESOME as cloth napkins, for example.
2. Make sure they look casual and not formal, and forgive yourself in advance for any wrinkles they might encounter. If you have to iron them before you use them, you never will.
3. Keep them handy. Somewhere you can see them and grab them easily.
4. Don't force yourself to use them. If you want, get a little lackadaisical about buying paper napkins and see what happens.

But that's only if you want to make the switch. I grew up with paper, and I'd be using paper now if cloth weren't so much easier for me. I see nothing wrong with it. At least you're sitting at a table and not eating hunched over the sink, that's my feeling on the matter.

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Date: 2009-11-09 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misspamela.livejournal.com
Oooh, can you link me to the Etsy towels?

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Date: 2009-11-11 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
Reusable paper towels! I got mine in natural. They are just nicely edged light flannel squares, but they work insanely well.

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Date: 2009-11-09 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misspamela.livejournal.com
We are CHEAP and we use cloth napkins all the time so we don't have to buy paper. They're not nice or fancy -- sometimes we use bar towels that we got for almost nothing at BJ's.

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Date: 2009-11-09 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teenygozer.livejournal.com
I grew up with white cloth napkins on the dinner table every night, but then my parents had a kid they could force to iron them every week on wash day... ME! Once I got too big to do chores, they converted the (aging) napkins to rags and started using paper towels. Their green economy was based on slave labor!

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Date: 2009-11-09 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimesere.livejournal.com
I'm trying to switch over, but first I must break the household of its paper plate and plastic cup fixation.

i admit, I got into the awful habit of using them too, because I am lazy and despise doing the dishes.

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Date: 2009-11-09 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feochadn.livejournal.com
I despise buying things for the purpose of throwing them out, therefore I have several sets of cloth napkins. Washing them is easier and makes more sense and they last a verry long time. Plus, it weirds people out when you hand them linen instead of paper (which I enjoy!).
Tip though: don't buy white or super light colors, they'll stain fast. I have two sets of cotton/linen blend in bright red that I got at Pier 1 that I've been using daily for years (they come in 8 packs for about $10-12, $6-8 on sale).

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Date: 2009-11-09 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] octette
i only use cloth napkins. i never use paper ones. mostly this is because i hate feeling like i am killing the environment even moreso than i already am, and partially it is because paper napkins are expensive and i am trying to keep costs down by using cloth napkins and bullying the rest of my family into doing the same. sometimes when no one has run laundry, we end up using washcloths or dishtowels, but that is fine by me!

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Date: 2009-11-09 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tevere.livejournal.com
I acquired two sets of napkins/placemats as wedding gifts, but to be honest-- even when we have people over, we don't use them. Or paper napkins, either. I guess people just go to the bathroom and wash their hands if they're sticky, or grab a roll of paper towel if there's a spill? Hmm. It never really occurred to me that napkins were an essential part of dining. But then again, usually I'm just happy if there aren't too many weevils in the rice, so.

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Date: 2009-11-09 01:09 pm (UTC)
ratcreature: RL? What RL? RatCreature is a net addict.  (what rl?)
From: [personal profile] ratcreature
Heh. I actually bought a set of cloth napkins soon after I moved out from my parents because I hated (both for style and for evironmental reasons) that my parents just used paper napkins even on holidays and such. It actually was a higher priority in style for me than having proper lamps. (I actually still live with just lightbulbs in some places many years later, I just don't care about pretty lamps much). However I am fairly antisocial and just don't have guests all that often. So nobody can really appreciate that I own cloth napkins that match the color of my dishes.

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Date: 2009-11-09 04:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] giglet.livejournal.com
I claimed one set of cloth napkins, which isn't entirely true.

We have one cotton napkin per person in the household, each in a different color/pattern. When they get dirty enough that you can see the pizza-sauce stains past the purple paisley print (that one's mine) or they begin to smell, we wash them. Children who become extended houseguests tend to get dishtowels as their napkins.

These are not for-company napkins, and tend to get a lot of use in front of the TV, as well as at the table. I bring mine to work in my bagged lunches.

When company comes for Easter, they get the white linen napkins (if I can find them). When company comes for less formal affairs, they get... folded papertowels.

So... I'm not sure whether this is any more civilized than your house. (We also drink wine from mugs, because wine glasses don't survive here.)

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Date: 2010-04-25 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reginagiraffe
Hey, just checking in. Long time, no hear. Is everything okay?

If you want, send PM to reginagiraffe at verizon dot net.

*hugs*

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Date: 2010-06-01 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namastenancy.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm checking in as well. Are you OK? A simple message will do.

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Date: 2010-11-28 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popfantastic.livejournal.com
Just thinking about you, in the vein of people I am very grateful for. Hope you are doing OK.

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Date: 2011-01-24 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com
Hey, just thinking of you! Was talking to Dira and thinking about that time when we all posed in Chicago in front of that police van. Hope everything is OK! Send up a flare when you can! <3

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Date: 2011-02-14 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Kat, oh my Kat...where are you? Come back to us (or just, you know...let us know how you're doing???)

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Date: 2011-08-06 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherryice.livejournal.com
With VVC coming up, I was just thinking of you. Hope everything is well!

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Date: 2011-09-07 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] par-avion.livejournal.com
Thinking about you :) Hope you are well.

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Date: 2013-01-18 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandysniffer.livejournal.com
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4711647/prince-harry-kills-first-taliban-chief.html



Hero prince in missile strike on commander

Hero ... Prince Harry
WORLD EXCLUSIVE
Published: 23rd December 2012

PRINCE Harry has killed his first Taliban commander, The Sun can reveal.
The 28-year-old gunship co-pilot was called on to unleash a missile strike to eliminate a senior terror leader.
Harry has proved a massive hit with comrades in Helmand, Afghanistan, who have nicknamed him Big H.
A defence insider said: "Big H is a legend.
“We were on patrol and the Apache helicopters were called in. We heard this posh voice come over the radio and knew it was Big H. They were tracking a Taliban leader — he was commander level.

At controls ... Harry is front-seat co-pilot in vital chopper missions
"The Apache then let off some Hellfire missiles and its 30mm cannon and 'boom'. It was Big H all the way."
The Sun understands the decisive strike occurred in late October during a partnered patrol with Afghan troops hunting the Taliban chief.
Gunship co-pilot Harry is on tour in Helmand and has been flying daily combat missions helping "troops in contact" — the code given when ground forces are engaged by enemy fighters.
And 28-year-old Captain Wales has become a hugely popular figure with Our Boys. Our source added: "I met him in the cookhouse.

High flier ... Apache co-pilot Harry is on second tour in Afghanistan
I saw this bloke standing in line and I went, 'That's Big H'.
"He's like a normal squaddie. All the guys in Afghan have so much respect for him and love him.
"Big H is a legend, he's been out in Afghan and he's doing the business. All the guys love him — he's Big H. "He likes a drink and a laugh and he's one of the lads."


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4711647/prince-harry-kills-first-taliban-chief.html#ixzz2IHqevdcP


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