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I should, at the outset, warn y'all that for the next few months this LJ is about to become The Journal Of OMG I Am Uprooting My Life and Moving It Halfway Across The Country OMG OMG OMG. There shall be NO hard feelings toward anyone who bails out of the friendslist fearing that all this is really going to be kind of obsessional and tedious, because dudes, it so IS.

This week's hyperventilation is on the topic of My stuff. Please god let me figure out some way to move it that will not COST THE EARTH. Which is, actually, kind of funny because I don't HAVE that much stuff, certainly not compared to most normal people of my age. I went around this evening and measured, and did a bunch of computations, and I think I'm at around 400 cubic feet of stuff I will probably move, whereas your average household appears to be at least twice that.

What is aggravating about this is that I'd really like to go with one of those we-drop-it-off, you-pack-it, we-move-it, pod-type units, but they seem to average slightly under 400 cubic feet--which is to say, I might conceivably be able to jam all my crap in one, but it'd be safer to get two, except that vastly increases the cost and hassle. The pod-units appeal because I'm not going to be trying to rent an apartment out there before moving, but will rather crash for a month or so with my friends M and J, and hence need to have my stuff stored, and having it already packed into a pod would simplify this. But I think now I'm going to go with Broadway Express for the actual move (they are highly recommended on the movingscams.com website), and have them put everything into a storage unit in Seattle, and then sort things out from there in the fullness of time.

But I still want to do a really massive purge before I begin packing. Goals about which I have some clarity include:
--books: divest myself of anything that is easily obtainable through the library system and that I do not need to have on hand for frequent reference (which would mean getting rid of about 75% of the books I own).
--music: rip all CDs to my hard drive, back up the hard drive, sell the CDs.
--kitchen: give away all cooking gadgets that I don't really use oftener than a few times a year.
--clothes: if it doesn't fit, it is GONE.
--roll-top desk: this is a beautiful antique that belonged to my mother, and I would love to still have it in my life, but I really would be fearful about moving it across country, because it's very old and brittle, so I think I'm just going to give it to my brother instead.

Then there are things about which I'm more undecided:
--sofa: I kind of like my sofa, but it *is* twenty-plus years old, and *dirty*, and felted with ancient cat hair, all of which would argue for dump rather than move, but on the other hand, new sofas are damned expensive.
--exercise bike: I do like it, I do use it, but it's *heavy* and *big* and it probably doesn't make sense to move it.
--big heavy winter coat: I shouldn't ever *need* it again (YAY!!!) unless I come back to visit Minnesota in the winter--like, say, at Christmas? It's really bulky, but I guess I could use it to pad breakables or whatever.

And, um -- HOLY CRAP OMG I'm moving!!! As I have wanted to do for the past FOUR YEARS! (*flail flail flail*)
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Date: 2007-06-15 11:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brynwulf
Wow, Kat. I must have missed the post that you announced your move. Where? The NW as you wished? Congratulations on your new life!!!

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Um -- er. (*g*) I just realized I put the one post in which I announced this on my tightest-tiniest filter, I guess because at that moment I was still so freaked out by the whole thing. But, yeah, Pacific-NW bound, probably in late August. (*clutching head, muttering "OMG OMG OMG!!!!"*)

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbo.livejournal.com
I would advise keeping the winter coat, because a) you will come back to MN to visit sometime, and it may be a cold time, b) you may go somewhere else cold when it's winter (you may find you miss winter), c) it can be hard to find good winter coats in an area where there's not much winter. Plus, yes, you can definitely use it as padding during the move.

As far as the couch goes, well, yes, couches are expensive. Couches are also expensive to move. The question is, once you've found a place to live, will it be more fun for you to shop for a new couch, an exciting new piece of furniture to celebrate your new life, or will it be more fun to have your old beloved couch delivered to you, complete with cat hair, but beloved and familiar?

As far as the exercise bike goes, a) how expensive are exercise bikes? b) will you have a gym membership at your new place? c) will you want to be exercising outside more now that you're away from winter (although you will have the rain to deal with) and thus would be better served investing in a regular bike-type bike?

Also, OMG yes check and double check and triple check on the movers, because you don't want to get screwed. Do you have a moving allowance from the new job? Do you have enough willing and able friends to actually pack and load one of those cubes? If you can find a way to find a place quickly enough, it is cheaper to pay movers to move your stuff (and load and unload it) than to drive a rental or store it when you are talking a cross-country move.

And verily I say unto you: YOU CAN DO IT.

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Excellent advice, and thank you so much for it! I've decided I'll take the coat, for the reasons you give, and also because it doesn't really take up that much room. The exercise bike -- I really don't know what my new situation will be like, but I think I'll just get rid of it here, because once I'm living in a place where it's not either 90 FRICKIN' DEGREES or else FREEZING most of the year, I can exercise outside. And the sofa-- god, I still don't know.

The movers seem to be pretty rock-solid, as far as I can tell. Since I don't actually HAVE a new job yet, I'll be paying for this all out of pocket, which is why I'm not just going for the full-service move; I can hire some day-labor guys on this end to help load up the truck, and in Seattle, I'm counting on my friend M. to recruit some of his bar buddies to carry things in exchange for beers. (*g*)

And verily I say unto you: YOU CAN DO IT.

Believe me, I am *clasping these words to my bosom.* And thank you so much!!

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merryish.livejournal.com
Yay you, for finally moving!

When I came to Chicago (on the trail of my father's killers), I used one of those cross-country movers that moved my stuff and other people's stuff all in one big truck. The downside is, you may get your stuff on the day they say...or you may get it two weeks later. It depwnds on when they leave, which depends on when the truck is full.

Good luck, and again, YAY!!

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Date: 2007-06-16 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
YAY! I just wish you were still out there, so that I was moving *toward*, rather than away from you. (*snif*)

Luckily, timing is very much not of the essence here; I probably won't have a place for the stuff to be moved into for at least a month.

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sdwolfpup.livejournal.com
You're moving to the Pacific NW! We'll roll out the welcome mat for you when you arrive. :)

Two things - First, re: couches, I had great success finding a used-but-in-good-condition couch on Craigslist (a sleeper bed, nonetheless) so if you're willing to go that route, it can be done well and would likely be cheaper (or at least less hassle) than moving your old couch. And second, re: moving companies, do not under any circumstances use Starving Students. We used them to move up here and they were abominable. Terribly service, the worst customer handling of questions/complaints ever. I got into a yelling match with one of their representatives which was precipitated by her. So not worth it. I warn everyone I know about how awful they were.

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com
I was going to say, I found a very gorgeous, nearly new, 4 person dining set on craigslist for $75 dollars. And I didn't move to a big city like Chicago. If you can imagine finding someone/someway of moving a sofa or sofa like pieces, I'd go for craigslist. It's also a great place to find some temp fill in pieces for other furniture.

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Hee. I just finished posting about missing important posts, and I'd totally missed you mentioning that you were moving (...although I might have not been on that filter *G*)

Anyway! Yay for moving!

And here's the thing. If you're renting a truck, then you can throw everything that fits in it, which means the bike is fine. But a couch that you say is old and dirty? Heh. Send it to the cornfield!

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kitestringer.livejournal.com
Oh man—I'm both jealous and incredibly happy for you! (*God*, I'd love to move there...) I'm on the verge of doing a rather massive pre-moving purge of stuff myself, so I look forward to commiserating with you. *g*

Unfortunately, I have nothing in the way of helpful advice. When I moved to Chicago from NYC, I shipped most of my stuff via UPS. I...don't recommend it. LOL.
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Date: 2007-06-15 11:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akite.livejournal.com
\o/ I'm so excited for you! It's been a long time since I've moved even across town, much less cross country (though, I did that in 1982). I'm looking forward to reading your posts about it. Really.

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Date: 2007-06-16 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Heh. Oh, believe me, there shall be posts. (YAY!)

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
Congratulations on the new job and the upcoming move! Fingers crossed that the actual moving process goes smoothly; that you've already done research bodes well.

My rule of thumb is fairly simple for whether to keep or get rid of stuff that I use but doesn't have emotional value/attachment when moving: Can it be replaced? If yes, will it cost more to replace than to move? If an item can be replaced (new or used) and replacement is cheaper than moving, then the item doesn't get packed.

But I've found that because I use stuff until it wears out, trying to replace an older model with whatever is currently available often results in an outrageous price jump. As a result, replacement can often be more expensive than moving things for me - even on a long haul move.

Re the winter coat, use it to pad stuff for the move. Don't dump it. You never know when you'll be travelling into cold areas. Not just back to Minnesota but likely also Canada (assuming that you got the Pacific NW job). Heck, even after I moved from Michigan to the desert southwest, I used my cold weather gear when going up to Flagstaff or the Canyon in winter. And didn't it take you forever to find a winter coat that you liked? I seem to remember reading about that, though perhaps I'm mixing up journals.

And sofa prices are pretty wide ranging. You can find a variety of sofas on sale from decent makers starting at $300. Granted, $300 is a lot of money in my book, but it's a far cry from $3500 for an all leather, high-end sofa suite that seats twelve.

But really, the important thing is that you're moving - and that's something you've wanted to do for a long time. So congrats again, and best wishes for a safe and uneventful journey.

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Thanks so much for the encouraging and helpful comments! I'm very excited, and yeah, this is something I've wanted to do for *years*.

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heresluck
You know, of course, that if you need any help packing stuff -- or, hell, if you need someone there for moral support or to chant "Get rid of it! It can go! No, really!" -- I'm on it; just say the word. Or I can sit there and rip CDs while you pack. Or whatever.

Conversely, if you need to flee to a quiet place and NOT think about OMG PACKING AND UPHEAVAL HOLY SHIT MOVING GAAAAAH, just head thisaway. *g*

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
You're a gem! And yeah, I may possibly lean on you in both these respects.

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Date: 2007-06-15 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com
And and for the coat? Keep it. As someone else said, you never know where you might visit. Use it to pack something delicate, this it's not really taking up space.

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think on the whole hanging on to it would be more sensible. Thanks!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] basingstoke.livejournal.com
1. YAY MOVING. I am such a fan of moving to where you're most happy. I did that, and even though it was financially a terrible idea, it was personally a great idea.

2. Dump the couch. Couches are HORRIBLE to move around. Donate it to your local college students and get something lovely and new when the perfect couch strikes you, which it will. Until then, you can get a futon for seating. I moved a loveseat, and I really wish I hadn't.

3. Also dump the exercise bike. They're crazy bulky unless you can disassemble it down to flat. Again--I moved an exercise bike and I really wish I hadn't.

4. Keep the winter coat! If nothing else, you can look at it and cackle at how cold you aren't. You're right, use it to pad a vase or something.

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Excellent advice on all counts -- thanks, and thank you also for the encouragement! (I *am* excited, despite the freaking-out-ness.)

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiekjono.livejournal.com
I have a long list of confusing emotions.

Congratulations on getting the job. I am so happy for you!
OMG! We will miss you so much!
Oh neat. Stuff to pick through.
Darn! I was really looking forward to introducing you to all of the folks at the dog park whne you got that greyhound you were thinking about getting.

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
God, Jackie, I am so mixed in the feelings too! Part of every day I spend feeling very mournful about things and people here I will miss (and you are *right* up on that list, as is Carol). But you know, one thing I realized is that I wouldn't actually ever get a greyhound as long as I lived here, because the prospect of getting up and going out for the morning walk, in the pitch dark and -20, in midwinter, was just too daunting.

And, um ... I haven't actually gotten a job yet. (*g*) I've got some applications out, and am basically trusting that my lifelong good job luck will stay with me here. (Also, I can *always* temp, if necessary.)

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dine.livejournal.com
whoot! this is such grand news - I'm so happy for you!!!!

there's lots of work ahead of you, but it is survivable and you'll be so happy once you've arrived and can begin to assemble a new place and life. I know you've wanted to move to the NW for ages, and it's great that it's finally happening!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
(*leaping about*) I am so HAPPY that I finally made this decision! (Even though I am sad about the people and things here that I shall miss.) OMG MOVING!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] planetalyx.livejournal.com
You're coming here! You're coming here! Or as near here as one might reasonably expect, given the International border and all. OMG! I am excited!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Yayy!! (And dammit, I *still* don't have my passport; must get on that, so I can do Vancouver visits!)

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shayheyred.livejournal.com
Take the exercise bike, take the coat. Toss the sofa. And think twice about the roll-top desk, unless your brother is already salivating over it. Stuff like that will help anchor you in your new place.

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
My brother would love to have it, and honestly, I think I'd just get too stressed out worrying about moving it. (I'll take instead my mother's little antique wooden chair, which is much more easily portable.) Thanks for the good counsel!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falzalot.livejournal.com
MOVE!! OMGWTFBBQ!!! That's wonderful!!!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Wheeeee!! (*leaping about like a crazy woman*) Thanks!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
(*hugging you back*) This is so exciting! Completely disassembling the life I spent the last fifteen years putting together! WHEEEE!!

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Date: 2007-06-16 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyra-sena.livejournal.com
Yay for moving, so exciting!! Good luck with sorting everything out.

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Thanks, Lyra! I just wish I hadn't accumulated quite so much CRAP in the last couple of decades . . .

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Date: 2007-06-16 01:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] luminosity
OMG MOVING IS *SUCH* A PAIN IN THE ASS.

When we moved from CA to TN, N and I got rid of about 30% of what we owned. When we moved from TN to MS, we got rid of another 50%.
But it just keeps building up. Crap and more crap and more crap.

Keep your stiff liquor where you can reach it.

**empathy**

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Keep your stiff liquor where you can reach it.

BEST ADVICE EVER. God, this *used* to be much easier, because I used to move every 1-2 years, and so I never accumulated much crap. But now? I've been in this place since *1990*, and oh my lord, the stuff in my basement ... it breaks my BRAIN.

Of course, this also *used* to be so much easier because I *used* to have a nice vigorous young body, with the strong back and healthy knees and so on. (*sigh*) But the tradeoff, of course, is that I am no longer DEAD BROKE as I used to be in those days, and I can hire nice vigorous young men to do the heavy lifting (and enjoy the scenery as a bonus).

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Date: 2007-06-16 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com
Yay moving! That sounds like a very good move for you. I would agree with dump the sofa and exercise bike and buy new ones if you need it but keep the big heavy winter coat (you never know when you'll get cold somewhere). Hope it all goes well :)

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Yay! Thanks so much for the good advice and encouragement!

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Date: 2007-06-16 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namastenancy.livejournal.com
I "hear" you on the ohmygod I'm moving trauma as I'm helping a friend move after 30 years in the same apt. in SF. Ditch the couch, rip your CD's to a HD, get rid of all the extra stuff because you really don't need it and fly, fly, fly to Seattle.
But did I miss a post about the new job?

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Actually, I don't have a job yet; I've got some applications out, and if all else fails I can temp at the univ. there for a while, and I've got quite a bit of savings. (I know one is not supposed to leave Job A until Job B is locked in, but in this case staying any longer with Job A would have rendered me *freakin' batshit insane* so I decided it was more important to just cut the cord and get the hell out of here.)

And thanks so much for the good advice and good wishes! Soon, soon, I shall be heading west!

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Date: 2007-06-16 02:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reginagiraffe
How exciting!!

And when-ish are you moving? I may have to finally try and get my ass up that way before you go.

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Nothing definite yet, but I'm thinking late-ish August -- sometime after Vividcon and before Labor Day. And wow, it would be great to see you again! As I noted somewhere earlier in this thread, I am sad to be moving so much further away from all my east coast friends, drat it.

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Date: 2007-06-16 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthrami.livejournal.com
EEEEEE MOVING!!!

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Date: 2007-06-16 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
OMG WHEEEEEEE!!!! (*twirling until I fall down*)

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Date: 2007-06-16 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacksquirrel.livejournal.com
Oh my - I'd been meaning to contact you for *ages* to meet up again and it looks like this is my last chance. I'm not sure that you'll remember me - I interviewed you a few years ago for my dissertation and lent you a stack of 'zines. Since then we made vague promises to meet again for coffee and we've seen each other at Vividcon. Do you think you'll have an hour or two for a chat before you go?

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Date: 2007-06-16 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Yes, absolutely! I have *sucked* about keeping in touch, but let's get together by all means. Do you want to just drop me an e-mail? My evening/weekend schedule is very flexible at this point.

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Date: 2007-06-16 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kestrelsan.livejournal.com
Wow, go you! What a cool city, and such fabulous fans. And now I have another excuse to go back to visit!

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Date: 2007-06-16 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallison.livejournal.com
Oh, please do come visit! I'm really sad to be going *further away from* people on the east coast whom I don't see often enough as it is, damn it!
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