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Nov. 21st, 2002 07:52 amA while back, I was nosing around amongst enneagram sites, and ended up posting some compilations of Type 1 and Type 6(counterphobic) descriptions that seemed remarkably apt for Fraser and RayK respectively. Just recently, while looking for something else, I came across this description of Types 1 and 6 in relationship, which also seemed spot-on to me.
(What I was actually looking for was stuff on 5 + 5 relationships, as a way of thinking about me and P., and that description is also pretty damn spot-on. Hey, some people do on-line quizzes, I noodle around with the enneagram, we all have our hobbies, 'K?)
(What I was actually looking for was stuff on 5 + 5 relationships, as a way of thinking about me and P., and that description is also pretty damn spot-on. Hey, some people do on-line quizzes, I noodle around with the enneagram, we all have our hobbies, 'K?)
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Date: 2002-11-21 06:19 pm (UTC)What's interesting, though, is that while Ray can talk about feelings or fears, he usually seems to do that with someone other than the person they relate to. When he's talking about his feelings toward Stella, or toward his father, he does it with Fraser; when he finally comes out with that "You ever feel like you don't know who you are?" speech, he does it with *Thatcher* of all people. He can do straight-up in-your-face *fighting* with people he's pissed at, but when it's a matter of hurt or confusion or grief he seems to do the deflection and denial and then talk it out with somebody else. (His scenes with Beth Botrelle are striking in this regard; you can see him just *fighting* to keep it all pulled in, pulled together, both in the prison and in the tag scene, and then when he's with Fraser it all spills out.) So, I think if he were in a relationship with Fraser and it really went bad...he might try to find some way to talk about it, but I don't think it would necessarily be *with* Fraser. (Especially if Fraser was doing the pissy-critical thing. Which seems entirely likely.)